The UK Supreme Court ruling and the fight for trans rights

May 01, 2025

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In the wake of the UK Supreme Court ruling that the legal definition of woman should be based on biological sex, Nish and Zoë speak to LGBTQ+ activist Ellen Jones, author of “Outrage: Why the fight for LGBTQ+ equality is not yet won and what we can do about it” about the implications for trans people.

They discuss how the campaigning of reactionaries like billionaire author JK Rowling led to the decision that has seen Prime Minister Keir Starmer backflipping on his support for the trans community. Ellen speaks on the dangers of the recent ruling and practical ways to resist and support the trans community.

Then, as the Tories flounder ahead of the local elections, Zoë hedges her bets. And we take a look at two shocking attempts to seize the limelight by Liz Truss and Tony Blair.

Plus, ahead of the Australian election this weekend, Nish speaks to former Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan about how, in the wake of Trump’s tariffs and attacks on allies, the commonwealth might be more important than ever and what the US and UK could learn from Australia’s compulsory preferential voting system.

CORRECTION: In this episode we at one point refer to the EHCR incorrectly, for clarity, it is the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

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Guests:

Ellen Jones

Wayne Swan

Useful links:

Outrage: Why the fight for LGBTQ+ equality is not yet won and what we can do about it by Ellen Jones

https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/ellen-jones/outrage/9781035030606