December 14, 2025
Pod Save America
Can Democrats Fight Trump Without Being Defined by Him? (with Gov. JB Pritzker)
In This Episode
Governor JB Pritzker visits the studio to talk to Lovett about Trump’s Indiana redistricting fail, how Illinois is standing up to ICE’s immigration raids, and how the governor’s upbringing — a childhood of both privilege and tragedy — shaped his career in politics. Plus, Lovett asks the governor to defend his controversial Star Wars film rankings, quizzes him on some blackjack hands, and asks what we’re all thinking: Is he running for President?
