Jon finally lives up to the mission of the show and takes some time offline. In his stead, guest host Charlie Warzel, writer of The Atlantic’s “Galaxy Brain,” talks to technologist Michael Sacasas about how the internet became a doom loop. Together, they explore why we all feel “stuck” online, how the internet forces us to dwell on the past, and how individuals can regain their agency through strategic silence.

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